Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Galatians 1:8-9

Galatians 1:8-9 says
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


Now the point of this topic is this, I was speaking with an LDS member on another blog, and he kept saying stuff like this,
1. Evangelicals believe that pretty much only evangelicals will be saved from an eternal hell. (From what I can tell evangelical theology holds that certainly no non-Christians will be saved from eternal hell and many Christians (Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, liberal protestants, Mormons, etc) won’t be saved either.)
2. The vast majority of Arabs and Asians are not and never will be Christians of any variety in this life, let alone the evangelical version of Christianity. Rather they are Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.
3. Most Arabs and Asians will never even be given a real opportunity to even hear about any kind of Christianity in any remotely persuasive way that might lead to their conversion. In many countries Christianity is not even tolerated.
4. Jesus decides where and when everyone is born.
5. Therefore, in evangelical theology Jesus hates Asians and Jews and Arabs so much that he assigned 99% of them to be born in countries/families/cultures that make it virtually impossible to become evangelical Christians in this life.
6. That means nearly all Arabs and Asian are virtually fated from before their birth to wind up being resurrected and tortured forever. Jesus made this happen according to evangelical theology. They did not choose to be born into Iran or India or Indonesia or China or Thailand or wherever.


That was his exact words from the blog. He keeps saying how the evangelical God is hateful and evil, Just for the record I don't label myself evangelical, I am a guy who reads the Bible and follows Jesus. Anyway, here was my reply to Him,
come on, read your Bible, when it was simply Adam and Eve, no other Human, their were no false religions. These false religions were started by men and women who hate the gospel, they do not like the free gift of grace alone so they make their own religion, how is that Gods fault.

Then I bet you will say as an LDS member you believe and follow the same Gospel Paul preaches correct?

Well your Church teaches it is the only true church upon the face of the earth, all others MIGHT have some truth, but are still incorrect.

So Do you admit, Islam, JW’s, Buddhist, Hindu Ect preach or teach the Mormon gospel? I bet you will say they have a different Gospel. If they do and you believe the gospel Paul preached, then we come back to Gal 1:8-9, these religions that were started by men are preaching a different Gospel than what you believe or Paul taught, So where do these religions go after death for teaching a gospel other than what Paul taught according to Gal 1:8-9?


To this I received no reply, and I don't think I ever will, and the reason I don't think I will is because, if as an LDS member you admit these groups are not teaching what you teach, then they as Paul said have a false Gospel and will end up in hell. Rick b

1 comment:

Dr. Russell Norman Murray said...

These false religions were started by men and women who hate the gospel, they do not like the free gift of grace alone so they make their own religion, how is that Gods fault.

Hi Rick,

Persons outside of Christ, with significant freedom reject God. They do this as beings with corrupt natures, and resulting sinful thoughts and choices. God is therefore not morally obligated to save anyone, but by grace saves some. Therefore, if a person has not grown up in a western culture with a Christian past, God is not unjust for avoiding providing a particular person with salvation, since the human nature opposes God's holy nature, and sinful thoughts and choices make a human being unfit for the presence of God. God saves some by his will, through grace, and human preaching is often a part of that process. As well, I reason that Catholics, Orthodox and non-evangelicals that are saved, are saved by believing and trusting in the Biblical Christ for salvation, in the same way that evangelicals would be saved (John 1:12-13). Each group is going to contain church attendees that are not true believers.

Thanks, Rick.