Saturday, August 26, 2006

Comparisons

Is God, "One God, manifested in three persons," or is He, "Three Gods?"

The Book of Mormon:

""And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, WHICH IS ONE GOD. Amen" [Introduction: Testimony of three witnesses] Namely--Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer & Martin Harris

... every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, WHICH IS ONE ETERNAL GOD" (Alma 1:44b).(4)

"Behold, I am he who was prepared from the foundation of the world to redeem my people. Behold, I AM JESUS CHRIST. I AM THE FATHER AND THE SON" (Ether 3:14).

And as I spake concerning the convincing of the Jews, that Jesus is the very Christ, it must needs he that the Gentiles be convinced also that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God (2 Nephi 26:12).

"Teach them that redemption cometh through CHRIST THE LORD, WHO IS THE VERY ETERNAL FATHER. Amen" (Mosiah 16:15; see also 2Nephi 31:21; Mosiah 15:1-5; Alma 11:38,39; 3Nephi 11:27,36; Mormon 7:7).



Joseph Smith:

"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, JESUS CHRIST A SEPARATE AND DISTINCT PERSONAGE FROM GOD THE FATHER, and the Holy Spirit was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute THREE DISTINCT PERSONAGES AND THREE GODS." [ Documentary History of the Church 6:474, June 16, 1844; quoted in Daniel Ludlow, ed. Latter-day Prophets Speak. Logan, UT: Bookcraft, 1988, p.273.]

"Peter and Stephen testify that they saw the son of Man standing on the right hand of God. Any person that had seen the heavens opened knows that there are THREE PERSONAGES in the heavens who hold the keys of power, and one presides over all." [Documentary History of the Church 5:426, June 11, 1843 (quoted in Ludlow, p.273).]

"When the light rested upon me I saw TWO PERSONAGES, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other - This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!" [Joseph Smith - History 1:17b. Pearl of Great Price, p.49.]





Has He always been God , or was He "an exalted man" first?

Book of Mormon:
"For do we not read that GOD IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND FOREVER, and in him there is no variableness neither shadow of changing?" (Mormon 9:9).

"For behold, GOD knowing all things, BEING FROM EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING, behold, he sent angels to minister unto the children of men" (Moroni 7:22).

"For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but HE IS UNCHANGEABLE FROM ALL ETERNITY TO ALL ETERNITY" (Moroni 8:18).

Joseph Smith:
"GOD HIMSELF WAS ONCE AS WE ARE NOW AND IS AN EXALTED MAN and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!... [Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 1976, pp. 345-346]

"It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know that HE WAS ONCE A MAN LIKE US; yea, that God Himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did; and I will show it from the Bible." [ Times and Seasons August 15, 1844 (quoted in Ludlow, p.277).]



Do the saved praise God in eternity or become gods?

Book of Mormon:
"... that I might go down in peace, and my immortal spirit may join the choirs above in SINGING THE PRAISES OF A JUST GOD" (Mosiah 2:28b).

"And he [Jesus Christ] hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to SING CEASELESS PRAISES with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end" (Mormon 7:7).

Joseph Smith:
"Gods have an ascendency over the angels, who are ministering spirits. In the resurrection, some are raised to be angels; others are RAISED TO BECOME GODS." [Documentary History of the Church 5:426-427, June 11, 1843 (quoted in Ludlow, p.77).]

"... they [a righteous, resurrected husband and wife] will pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fullness and continuation of the seeds forever and ever. THEN THEY SHALL BE GODS, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then they shall be above all, because all things are subject to them. THEN SHALL THEY BE GODS, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them."[ Doctrine and Covenants 132:19b-20, July 12, 1843, pp.268-269]

"... because they [Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob] did none other things than that which was commanded, they have entered into their exaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but ARE GODS."[ Doctrine and Covenants 132:37b, July 12, 1843, p.270.]



Is there one God, or are there many Gods?

Book of Mormon:
"And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God? And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God. Now Zeezrom said: IS THERE MORE THAN ONE GOD? And he answered, NO" (Alma 11:26-29).

Joseph Smith:
"And then the Lord said: Let us go down. And they went down at the beginning, and THEY, THAT IS THE GODS, organized and formed the heavens and the earth."

"And THEY (THE GODS) said: Let there be light; and there was light."

"And THE GODS TOOK COUNSEL AMONG THEMSELVES and said: Let us go down and form man in our image, after our likeness."

"And THE GODS SAID AMONG THEMSELVES: On the seventh time we will end our work, which we have counseled; and we will rest on the seventh time from all our work which we have counseled."

You will find the above verses here Matt------ [ Abraham 4:1,3,26; 5:2. Contained in Joseph Smith. The Pearl of Great Price. Salt Lake City: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1986, pp. 38, 40.]

Is God Spirit, or is God Flesh?

The Book Of Mormon

"And the king said: IS GOD THAT GREAT SPIRIT that brought our fathers out of the land of Jerusalem? And Aaron said unto him: YEA, HE IS THAT GREAT SPIRIT, and he created all things both in heaven and in earth" (Alma 22:9,10a).

"And then Ammon said: Believest thou that there is a GREAT SPIRIT? And he said, Yea. And Ammon said: THIS IS GOD" (Alma 18:26-28a).

Joseph Smith:

"If the veil were rent today and the great God who holds this world on its orbit and who upholds all worlds and things by His power was to make Himself visible, - I say, if you were to see Him today, you would see Him LIKE A MAN IN FORM - like yourselves in all the person, image, and VERY FORM AS A MAN...." [Times and Seasons August 15, 1844 (quoted in Ludlow, p.277).]

"THE FATHER HAS A BODY OF FLESH AND BONES as tangible as man's; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of spirit." [Doctrine and Covenants 130:22. Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1986, p.265]

For more Comparisons, read my topic called Contradictions

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

Again the circles of truth are found in the Mormon faith and are revealed. As much as mormons try to explain everything. They like the rest of us are consigned to take things on Faith were even their written scripture fails to convincingly to define the nature of the Godhead. If present day apostles, prophets, and seers speaks with words equal to that of written scripture this little issue could be fixed and ancient scripture could be updated and published with this new reveal truth. Why has this not happened?

Without such edits mormons are faced to place their trust in the prophets of the church and his current doctrines [which change from time to time, ie polygamy] and not even their written scripture;

The rest of us can rely on the preserved and eternal Word of God found in the Bible.