Thursday, October 02, 2008

D and C 129

Read D and C 129 below, I will explain at the bottom what my point is.


Instructions given by Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, February 9, 1843, making known three grand keys by which the correct nature of ministering angels and spirits may be distinguished. HC 5: 267.
1–3, There are both resurrected and spirit bodies in heaven; 4–9, Keys are given whereby messengers from beyond the veil may be identified.



1 There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones—


2 For instance, Jesus said: Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


3 Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory.


4 When a messenger comes saying he has a message from God, offer him your hand and request him to shake hands with you.


5 If he be an angel he will do so, and you will feel his hand.


6 If he be the spirit of a just man made perfect he will come in his glory; for that is the only way he can appear—

7 Ask him to shake hands with you, but he will not move, because it is contrary to the order of heaven for a just man to

deceive; but he will still deliver his message.


8 If it be the devil as an angel of light, when you ask him to shake hands he will offer you his hand, and you will not feel anything; you may therefore detect him.

9 These are three grand keys whereby you may know whether any administration is from God.


I was talking with a Mormon and opened up to this chapter, I Read out loud to him verses 1-4, then I stopped and offered to shake his hand, he did not exactly want to, but he did. I gave him a very firm handshake, then flat out asked him, did you feel my hand shake, he said yes, so then I read the rest of the chapter to him.

after I was done, I said to him, since you felt my hand shake, this proves I am a messanger from God, and I have a message for you. Joseph Smith is a false prophet and the BoM is not from God. The Mormon smiled and told me he honestly has no answer for me, but he did smile and liked that. so this is one you can do with mormons and see how they reply. Rick b