Tuesday, June 06, 2006

Church Denominations

I want to cover the issue of Church Denominations. The LDS keep commenting on the fact their are many Denominations within the Christian Church. I stated that Church Denominations Are not of God, but of man. They are a result of us humans being selfish sinners. The Bible teaches on various things, Yet we as sinful man either don't like what the Bible says, or we cannot agree, so we form Denominations. Some are not due to sin, but simply tradition. Some people like to dress up or wear robes, or sing old hymns not more contemporary music of the day. Some things that are differences that cause a Denomination, are things like, Women pastors. If LDS are familiar with the term, rapture of the Church, their are 3 views to that, Pre, post or mid. People cannot agree to which one is correct. I believe the bible is clear as to the Correct view, it's just people choose to believe what they want to believe. Their is also the issue of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, some people only believe they were for years ago, after Christ rose from the Dead. Others believe they are even for today, Again I believe the Bible is clear on this, but it is more a matter of people want to believe what they want to believe.

Someone wrote me a private Email telling me their are Denominations taught in the Bible, After I posted their were not. They said their are/were 3 different ones in Jesus's day, they are, the Sadducees, Pharisees and Essences. I guess I better clarify, The Denominations are Not Of God. Their might be some found in the Bible as it were, but they are not of God. So I guess if you want to say, they are found in the Bible, show me chapter and verse where they were started by God. Here is something the Bible clearly teaches.
1Cr 14:33 For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


Now, If God is not the author of confusion, why would he make many different denominations that only cause confusion? Lets look also at what the Bible tells us,
Eph 4:14 That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.

Col 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.


The Bible teaches us that their are both doctrines of Demons and Men. I believe that their are many Church denominations as a result of both of these. Many Church's today teach that Homosexuals are Good loving people that will enter into heaven. This is not supported by Scripture. Their is a so called Church denomination that sold indulgences to avoid hell, another one by the name of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints, Taught Polygamy was of God. As a result their was a Church split among them, now we have the RLDS and FLDS and they both follow teachings closer to the original LDS Church.

Now, Lets take a walk through the Bible, Looking for either Church denominations or where God started them. We read in the Book of Genesis, God created Adam and Eve. The only two people on the earth at the time along with God. No denomination here. After they had kids time went on, then we come to Noah. Still at this point their is not one mention of a Church Denomination or Church Sect.

Gods Destroyed the earth with water, only 8 people lived. God started over with Noah and his family, Again no Denominations or Sects. After this, the people of the earth started to build a tower to the heavens. God came down and confused their speech so they could not finish this tower. Then after that God called Abram and Sarai his wife out of the land of UR, And founded the Jewish nation from them. Now we have on the planet earth 2 groups of people, The Jews and the gentiles, Gentiles are simply non-Jewish people. Now you can read through the rest of the OT, you will only find the ten tribes of Israel, then they get split up, they all still believe and follow the same God. They might sin and get punished, they might walk away from God for a time, but they still believe in God.

When we get to the NT, We read things about Jesus teaching the people, and hear statements like,
Mat 16:11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake [it] not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?

Mat 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade [them] not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Mat 22:34 But when the Pharisees had heard that He had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.


Notice in these verses here, Jesus states the Pharisees and Sadducees Doctrine was like Levin, meaning sinful and wrong. And we read Jesus put them to silence in Matthew 22:34. If what they were teaching was really of God, why would Jesus say this about them? Lets read more of the Scripture. We read here in
Mar 12:1 And he began to speak unto them by parables. A [certain] man planted a vineyard, and set an hedge about [it], and digged [a place for] the wine vat, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country.

Mar 12:2 And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruit of the vineyard.

Mar 12:3 And they caught [him], and beat him, and sent [him] away empty.

Mar 12:4 And again he sent unto them another servant; and at him they cast stones, and wounded [him] in the head, and sent [him] away shamefully handled.

Mar 12:5 And again he sent another; and him they killed, and many others; beating some, and killing some.

Mar 12:6 Having yet therefore one son, his well beloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son.

Mar 12:7 But those husbandmen said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours.

Mar 12:8 And they took him, and killed [him], and cast [him] out of the vineyard.

Mar 12:9 What shall therefore the lord of the vineyard do? he will come and destroy the husbandmen, and will give the vineyard unto others.

Mar 12:10 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:

Mar 12:11 This was the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Mar 12:12 And they sought to lay hold on him, but feared the people: for they knew that he had spoken the parable against them: and they left him, and went their way.

Mar 12:13 And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in [his] words.

Mar 12:14 And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?

Mar 12:15 Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see [it].

Mar 12:16 And they brought [it]. And he saith unto them, Whose [is] this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's.

Mar 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

Mar 12:18 Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying,

Mar 12:19 Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave [his] wife [behind him], and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.

Mar 12:20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed.

Mar 12:21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise.

Mar 12:22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also.

Mar 12:23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.

Mar 12:24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?


Notice in these verse here, Jesus clearly speaks against what the Pharisees and Sadducees taught, They were so mad they wanted to kill Jesus, but they feared the people. Then later they marveled at His teachings. Why would they marvel at the teachings of Jesus, if they believed what he did and they really followed him? Then later Jesus says about their question, You do Err and do not know the Scripture.

Check these verses out, The Lord Jesus lays a smack down on the Pharisees, Ok, not a smack down, but worse, pronounces Woes upon them. If they simply are a God ordained Denomination, why Did Jesus say this stuff about them?
Luke 11:37 And as he spake, a certain Pharisee besought him to dine with him: and he went in, and sat down to meat.

Luke 11:38 And when the Pharisee saw [it], he marveled that he had not first washed before dinner.

Luke 11:39 And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.

Luke 11:40 [Ye] fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?

Luke 11:41 But rather give alms of such things as ye have; and, behold, all things are clean unto you.

Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Luke 11:43 Woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye love the uppermost seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets.

Luke 11:44 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over [them] are not aware [of them].

Luke 11:45 Then answered one of the lawyers, and said unto him, Master, thus saying thou reproachest us also.

Luke 11:46 And he said, Woe unto you also, [ye] lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.

Luke 11:47 Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.

Luke 11:48 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres.

Luke 11:49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and [some] of them they shall slay and persecute:

Luke 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;

Luke 11:51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.

Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

Luke 11:53 And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge [him] vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:

Luke 11:54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.


So Please go through the Scripture and clearly show me where God created various Denominations? They simply are not of God. Rick b

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