Trinity in the Bible

We read in Genesis 1:1 God (Elohim) this is a plural noun speaking of more than one person. Yet (Bara) is the Hebrew verb for Elohim but it is in the singular. We find 3 in one. We again find this in verses 3:22 where God says man has become like one of us. And we find it in 11:7 at the tower of babal, 3 in one. Then we read in the 10 commandments number 3 says You shall have no other gods before me.

We read in Deuteronomy 6:4, "Hear 0 Israel the Lord our God is ONE." God, Not 3 separate Gods. Now I know mormons claim we are not worshiping other gods, Just God the Father. But the scriptures clearly teach there are no other Gods period. Read Isaiah 45:6,14,18,21,22 46:5,9 47:8,10 and 48:12 these all teach their are no gods before me and none will be after me, God states I know of NO OTHER Gods. So if the mormon Godhead is true, and God was once a man as mormonism teaches then his Father would be a God, so God would know about him would he not? If Jesus and the Holy spirit are Gods, God the Father would know about them would he not? So if God the Father states their are no Gods before him or after him How can Worthy LDS members become gods, or how could God have a father who is a God, or how could Jesus or the Holy Spirit be Gods and God the Father not know about them? This tells me we can find the 3 in One Godhead (Trinity).

Then we can read many places in the Old Testament Like Joshua 5 for example about the Spirit of the Lord. This angle of the Lord tells Joshua to remove his sandals for he is on Holy Ground, we read God saying the same thing to Moses in the burning bush. Here we find an (Angle) Saying your on Holy Ground and allowing a mere human to worship Him. Every case in the bible where God sent an angle to give a message to someone, and that person tried to worship the angle we find the angle saying get up, get up do not worship me. The one angle that wanted worship was lucifer and look what happened to him.

Now we read in Isaiah chapter 6:3 The angles are flying and saying "Holy Holy Holy", Now are they saying Holy to 3 different Gods Or One God but in the triune form? Now Read Revelation 4:8 again we find the angles Saying "Holy Holy Holy", they are speaking about 1 God. We find the trinity. Read in Genesis 48:15 When Jacob is about to bless Josephs 2 Sons, Jacob mentions God twice then mentions the Angle who redeemed me, How can a plain angle redeem anyone? I see the Trinity here. Not 3 separate Gods.

We read in Exodus, God speaks to Moses in the burning bush, God says "I AM" Read over in John 8:58 Jesus says "I AM", this is the same "I AM", God used in Exodus, Jesus is not saying he is a god, He IS saying He IS GOD. Even the Jews understood this, that is why they tried to stone him. We read in Exodus 17:6 God the Father told Moses to strike the rock and water will come forth, Then over in Numbers 20:8 We read Moses was supposed to SPEAK to the rock and water would come forth, instead he struck the rock again. Then we read in 1Corinthians 10:4 that Rock was Christ. The example God was trying to set up but Moses blew it was, Jesus was that Rock, he was crucified for us, The Rock was struck. From that point on we only need to speak to Christ (The Rock) Not crucify him all over again (Strike him again) Here we see hints of the Trinity.

Know lets look at Verses that say Jesus is God, not a god.

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God."

Romans 9:5 "Of whom are the fathers and from whom according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God, amen." Notice it says Christ is the blessed God.

Titus 2:13 "Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ." Here again we read Jesus is God.

1st John 5:20 "And we know that the son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we me know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in his son Jesus Christ. This is the True God and eternal life."

Acts 5:3-9 Here we see How the Holy Spirit is God, Not a god.

Act 5:3 "But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?"

Act 5:4 "While it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God."

Act 5:5 "And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things."

Act 5:6 "And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him."

Act 5:7 "And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in."

Act 5:8 "And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much."

Act 5:9 "Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out."

We read here how he lied to God then he lied to the spirit and it made the spirit out to be God.

So here again we find the trinity, God the father is God, we find the scriptures teach Jesus IS GOD, and we find scripture that states the Holy Spirit is God.

We read in Matthew 28:19 Where it says to make disciples of all nations and baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit, this is said in the singular not the plural.

We see the trinity in the Death of Christ. Who was responsible for his death?
The father, Jesus says in Psalm 22:15 You, this You is Jesus speaking of the father being responsible for his death. 22: "You have brought me to the dust of death."

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that HE (God) Gave his only begotten Son."

Romans 8:32 "He (God the father) who did not spare his own Son."

But we know read Jesus was responsible for his death.
John 10:18 "No one takes it from me, but I lay it down myself."

Gal 2:20 "I have been crucified with Christ, It is no longer I who lives but Christ who lives in me, And the life which I now live in the flesh ; I live by faith in the son of God, who loved me and GAVE HIMSELF for me."

Now we read in Hebrews 9:14"how it was the Spirit of God who was responsible for the death of Christ."

9:14 "How much more shall the Blood of Christ, who through the Eternal spirit offered himself with out spot to God." Here we again find the trinity.

Now lets find the trinity with in the creation. Who created the heavens and the earth?

God the father. Psalms 102:25 "Of old You laid the foundations of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands."

Jesus Created the Heavens and the earth, John 1:10-11
10:"He was in the World, and the World was made through him, and the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own and his own did not receive him."

Colossians 1:16 "For by Him (the Him Is Jesus, read verse 15) all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through him and for him."

The Sprit Created.
Genesis 1:2 "The earth was with out form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters."

Job 26:13"By His Spirit He adorned the heavens; His hand pierced the fleeing serpent."

OK, Now lets move on to some verses in the Book of Mormon that show the Trinity.

Under the page that states "an account written by the Hand of Mormon upon plates taken from the plates of Nephi" it says near the bottom of the page in my copy, "And Also to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that JESUS is the CHRIST, the ETERNAL GOD"

Question, how can Jesus be THE ETERNAL GOD, if He is a separate God?

Now under the testimony of the 3 witnesses, it ends by saying, "And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, WHICH IS ONE GOD. Amen."

Here we read in the oringal 1830 edition, 1st Nephi 11:21 And the angel said unto me, behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the Eternal Father. Not only has this been changed from the oringal, but how can the Lamb of God (Jesus) be the eternal God?

Read 1 Nephi 11:32 1830 edition "And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God (Jesus), that He was taken by the people; yea, the everlasting God, was judged of the world; and I saw and bear record." Again the Son is called the Eternal God. why? also why the change or addition of words?

Here is another very serious change, 1st Nephi 13:40 1830 edition. "And shall make known to all kindred's, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world; and that all men must come unto Him, or they cannot be saved."

Now here in a more recent edition, 1920, 2 Nephi 26:12b says, "Be convinced also that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God." Yet again Jesus is called the Eternal God.

2 Nephi 31:21b says, "And now, behold, this is the Doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is ONE God, without end. Amen."
Notice they say they are ONE God and it is the doctrine of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.


Mosiah 7:26
26 "And a prophet of the Lord have they slain; yea, a chosen man of God, who told them of their wickedness and abominations, and prophesied of many things which are to come, yea, even the coming of Christ."

27 "And because he said unto them that Christ was the God, the Father of all things, and said that he should take upon him the image of man, and it should be the image after which man was created in the beginning; or in other words, he said that man was created after the image of God, and that God should come down among the children of men, and take upon him flesh and blood, and go forth upon the face of the earth."

28 "And now, because he said this, they did put him to death; and many more things did they do which brought down the wrath of God upon them. Therefore, who wondereth that they are in bondage, and that they are smitten with sore afflictions?"

In the verses Above we read that they killed people for teaching Jesus IS GOD, Not A God, But God.


Mosiah 15
1 "And now Abinadi said unto them: I would that ye should understand that God himself shall come down among the children of men, and shall redeem his people."

2 "And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son."

3 "The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son."

4 "And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth."

5 "And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, suffered temptation, and yieldeth not to the temptation, but suffered himself to be mocked, and scourged, and cast out, and disowned by his people."

6 "And after all this, after working many mighty miracles among the children of men, he shall be led, yea, even as Isaiah said, as a sheep before the shearer is dumb, so he opened not his mouth."

7 "Yea, even so he shall be led, crucified, and slain, the flesh becoming subject even unto death, the will of the Son being swallowed up in the will of the Father."

8 "And thus God breaketh the bands of death, having gained the victory over death; giving the Son power to make intercession for the children of men."

Again God is Jesus, Jesus is God.

Mosiah 16:15
15 "Teach them that redemption cometh through Christ the Lord, who is the very Eternal Father. Amen."

And LDS believe the trinity is a false teaching, your own book teaches it. Not to mention some changes to deny this were made between the 1830 and 1980 edition. Why?

Know we read here in Alma, a Mormon Prophet claiming Jesus is the eternal God and their is only One God, not Two or Three or more.

Alma 11:21-41
21 "And this Zeezrom began to question Amulek, saying: Will ye answer me a few questions which I shall ask you? Now Zeezrom was a man who was expert in the devices of the devil, that he might destroy that which was good; therefore, he said unto Amulek: Will ye answer the questions which I shall put unto you?"

22 "And Amulek said unto him: Yea, if it be according to the Spirit of the Lord, which is in me; for I shall say nothing which is contrary to the Spirit of the Lord. And Zeezrom said unto him: Behold, here are six onties of silver, and all these will I give thee if thou wilt deny the existence of a Supreme Being."

23 "Now Amulek said: O thou child of hell, why tempt ye me? Knowest thou that the righteous yieldeth to no such temptations?"

24"Believest thou that there is no God? I say unto you, Nay, thou knowest that there is a God, but thou lovest that lucre more than him."

25 "And now thou hast lied before God unto me. Thou saidst unto me—Behold these six onties, which are of great worth, I will give unto thee—when thou hadst it in thy heart to retain them from me; and it was only thy desire that I should deny the true and living God, that thou mightest have cause to destroy me. And now behold, for this great evil thou shalt have thy reward."

26 "And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God?"

27 "And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God."

28 "Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God?"

29 "And he answered, No."

30 "Now Zeezrom said unto him again: How knowest thou these things?"

31 "And he said: An angel hath made them known unto me."

32 "And Zeezrom said again: Who is he that shall come? Is it the Son of God?"

33 "And he said unto him, Yea."

34 "And Zeezrom said again: Shall he save his people in their sins? And Amulek answered and said unto him: I say unto you he shall not, for it is impossible for him to deny his word."

35 "Now Zeezrom said unto the people: See that ye remember these things; for he said there is but one God; yet he saith that the Son of God shall come, but he shall not save his people—as though he had authority to command God."

36 "Now Amulek saith again unto him: Behold thou hast lied, for thou sayest that I spake as though I had authority to command God because I said he shall not save his people in their sins."

37 "And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven? Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins."

38 "Now Zeezrom saith again unto him: Is the Son of God the very Eternal Father?"

39 "And Amulek said unto him: Yea, he is the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth, and all things which in them are; he is the beginning and the end, the first and the last;"

40 "And he shall come into the world to redeem his people; and he shall take upon him the transgressions of those who believe on his name; and these are they that shall have eternal life, and salvation cometh to none else."

41 "Therefore the wicked remain as though there had been no redemption made, except it be the loosing of the bands of death; for behold, the day cometh that all shall rise from the dead and stand before God, and be judged according to their works."

OK, Now I said the LDS Godhead is confusing and not the Trinity. Here are some reasons why this is so. I just gave much LDS scripture on the Trinity. Yet the LDS has made major changes to teach otherwise. Also I gave a discourse in Alma with a Mormon Prophet who is teaching ONE GOD ONLY. I gave much scripture from the Bible, Book of Isaiah Where God said their are no other Gods. Now we read in D and C 1:14 "And the arm of the Lord shall be revealed; and the day cometh that they who will not hear the voice of the Lord, neither the voice of his servants, neither give heed to the words of the prophets and apostles, shall be cut off from among the people."

Are you listing to the Lord, The apostles, and the Prophets? I showed you what they said and teach. But lets add some more confusing LDS scripture. Read Pearl of Great Price, book of Moses 1:6b "But their is no God beside me, and all things are present with me." Even the pearl teaches no Gods besides God alone.

But then to add even more confusion we read in the book of Abraham chapter 4,"God says, Him and the other Gods that he sat in counsel with created the earth. So Did God and the prophet Alma lie when they said their are no other Gods? One Last confusing Tidbit. I own the oringal Doctrine and Covenants with the oringal Lectures of Faith included. They teach that the Holy Spirit is the Mind of God, not a God. So even though LDS no longer hold the lectures as Doctrine, It was taught by the (Prophet) Joseph Smith, And he taught the Holy Spirit is the Mind of God. Which is it? Was JS wrong? If so what else could he be wrong about.