tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21305047.post115393660395324569..comments2023-06-11T06:28:51.938-07:00Comments on mormonism reviewed: Contention? Is it of the devil?rick bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11950869644074076301noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21305047.post-90406348618142262642012-04-04T08:07:31.685-07:002012-04-04T08:07:31.685-07:00Hello "Truth revealed" You said I think ...Hello "Truth revealed" You said <b>I think the issue lies in that you have difficulty in distinguishing between contention and rebuke.</b><br /><br />I really dont have a problem telling the difference.<br /><br />The Problem I have is all the cover up's and lies from Mormons who claim they have the truth, but when asked a question about something they believe then all of a sudden I get the persecution card thrown in the game, or the I feel a spirit of contention thrown in. How can we talk and have questions answered if all I get is that?<br /><br />I currently post on a regular basis on this site, www.answeringlds.org<br /><br />Their are two mormons who also post their, they go by "Fred" and "Clyde"<br /><br />Those two dodge questions and avoid questions so often, every single person has asked them over and over to answer questions, they have been asked why they are even their.<br /><br />They have even had another Mormon poster named TJAYT ask them why they are their. They have been told they are embarrassing the church with their ways. People have even posted that the Mods should kick them off. You should go their. I find it typical of Mormons to act as these two do, and I also find it typical of Mormons to do as you do.<br /><br />Set up an account, post one reply on a random topic that is buried way down, try and sound smart then never come back and tackle the serious questions. Thats what I notice.rick bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11950869644074076301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21305047.post-44012671655944529942012-04-04T00:46:19.051-07:002012-04-04T00:46:19.051-07:00You do not understand the gospel of jesus christ i...You do not understand the gospel of jesus christ if you think that contention is of God. I think the issue lies in that you have difficulty in distinguishing between contention and rebuke. <br /><br />Example of Contention:<br /><br />When a spouses scream at each other because they were angry about the other spouse not serving them in the manner in which they feel they should be served. Fighting to get gain while full of pride and disrespect<br /><br /><br /><br />Example of Rebuke: <br /><br />Husband is concerned about his wife because she is not spending enough time with the family. So with an attitude of concern and for a desire of helping them, not thinking of himself, the husband tells her that she needs to put her priorities in to perspective and put her family first, give of her time. <br /><br />Preferably, a spouse will confront in a loving manner with soft words and show love. Love breaks the spell of sin, while harshness even though there may be good intent, hardens the sinner even further down the road of no return.Truth Revealedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10956875209865525855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21305047.post-85655613108653725942011-09-22T09:50:30.088-07:002011-09-22T09:50:30.088-07:00Anon,
Please dont waste my time any more, If you r...Anon,<br />Please dont waste my time any more, If you refuse to read my topic I wont post your stuff. You cry, BOO-HOO. Ricks being Mean because he is doing what my Prophets challenged him to do.<br /><br />Anon Said <b>Your misinterpretation is nothing more than a feeble attempt to subvert and cast doubt on someone elses religion? </b><br /><br />This tells me you either did not read what I wrote, Or you did, but ignored much of it.<br /><br />Your prophets said, Tell us if we are wrong, show us were and how we are wrong. If JS is a liar he needs to be espoused as such.<br /><br />The Bible talks much about false prophets and wolves in sheeps clothing. I do what your prophets say, and you cry BOO-HOO, ricks picking on me.<br /><br />Grow a spine and defend your religion, if you cant, then leave.<br /><br />Your false prophets JS and false BoM claim what I believe is an ABOMINATION in the site of God and I am of the church of the devil.<br /><br />You dont see me running to Mormons crying, why do you attack my religion?<br /><br />I could easily say this about Mormons,<br /><b>Your misinterpretation is nothing more than a feeble attempt to subvert and cast doubt on someone elses religion? </b><br /><br />Instead I defend what I believe with Facts, reason and scripture. In Return You ignore what your prophets say and cry. So either reply with facts and evidence or dont waste my time.rick bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11950869644074076301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21305047.post-24095535768140884372011-09-20T13:40:14.451-07:002011-09-20T13:40:14.451-07:00Just like with the bible, your analogy comes down ...Just like with the bible, your analogy comes down to how you interpreted the scripture. <br /><br />"Spirit" of contention and not contention itself. It isn't saying contention is of the devil but a contentious <b>spirit</b> is. People who look to START problems, or in other words, have a contentious spirit are of the devil. Everything you pointed out proves this to be true. Christ wasn't LOOKING to cause harm that day. He saw what was going on and was LIVID at what supposed holy men were allowing in His Father's house. The Pharisees and Sadducees were not confronted out of a spirit of contention, they were confronted with a spirit of love for God and his word. Your misinterpretation is nothing more than a feeble attempt to subvert and cast doubt on someone elses religion? Why? Well I would say it is because you are living with that very "spirit of contention" which this scripture warns of. So who is REALLY in the right here? Not you. "for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." Indeed. I challenge you to change the things in your heart that would have you speak ill of others. I challenge you to quell your spirit of contention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21305047.post-61057430164692952052010-03-23T10:57:16.765-07:002010-03-23T10:57:16.765-07:00The 'spirit of contention' is of the devil...The 'spirit of contention' is of the devil, for he stirreth up the hearts of the children of men to contend one with another. Look at the context. Being offended by a strong statement of truth is not contention. Arguing with the apostle Paul could be contentious on the one side, those arguing against him, but not neccissarily on Paul's side ie declaring truth. Basically in part this means that when we lose control with anger and hatred replaces love and concern toward one another the spirit of Love, the spirit of God leaves us and we are 'left to kick against the pricks'. If we act on these hate-filled feelings to contend with others this is of the devil and as such not of God. This is in part what I have heard these Mormons say it means. Just because the Lord says that all the religions of the day are false - he declares this because he can, his word is truth and fulfilled. He is not contending he is teaching the truth, or more particularly declaring it because he Loves us. Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21305047.post-83125566208889767932010-03-23T10:40:27.922-07:002010-03-23T10:40:27.922-07:00The 'spirit of contention' is of the devil...The 'spirit of contention' is of the devil, for he stirreth up the hearts of the children of men to contend one with another. Look at the context. Being offended by a strong statement of truth is not contention. Arguing with the apostle Paul could be contentious on the one side, those arguing against him, but not neccissarily on Paul's side ie declaring truth. Basically in part this means that when we lose control with anger and hatred replaces love and concern toward one another the spirit of Love, the spirit of God leaves us and we are 'left to kick against the pricks'. If we act on these hate-filled feelings to contend with others this is of the devil and as such not of God. This is in part what I have heard these Mormons say it means. Just because the Lord says that all the religions of the day are false - he declares this because he can, his word is truth and fulfilled. He is not contending he is teaching the truth, or more particularly declaring it because he Loves us. Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21305047.post-1154477334769872852006-08-01T17:08:00.000-07:002006-08-01T17:08:00.000-07:00Roaming Gnome asked these questions. What purpose ...Roaming Gnome asked these questions. <B><BR/>What purpose is served in this discussion?<BR/><BR/>What good has this done anybody?<BR/><BR/>How much closer to God are you through this discussion?</B><BR/><BR/>RG, You said also <B>I have an idea of what Rick would say, </B> After I answer these questions, Tell me, was I close to what you thought I would say?<BR/><BR/>Question 1. <B>What purpose is served in this discussion?</B><BR/><BR/>My reply(s) 1st. I was accused of both lying and stealing anothers work. the Purposes from my point of view are these, I was showing I am not a liar and did not steal anothers work. Then they or he/she, Accused me out in the open so they needed to be rebuked in the open, just doing as the Pastor of my Church teaches. You make it public the reply becomes public.<BR/><BR/>Question 2. <B>What good has this done anybody?</B> It clearly proved I am not a liar or a thief. <BR/><BR/>Question 3. <B>How much closer to God are you through this discussion?</B><BR/><BR/>I am closer to God by the fact I did not lie, and did as His word teaches. <BR/> <BR/>2Cr 13:1 This [is] the third [time] I am coming to you.<B> In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. </B> <BR/><BR/><B> <BR/>2Cr 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? <BR/> <BR/><BR/>2Cr 13:7 Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.</B> Rick brick bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11950869644074076301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21305047.post-1154428959081777462006-08-01T03:42:00.000-07:002006-08-01T03:42:00.000-07:00OK, for those of you catching up, or for those of ...OK, for those of you catching up, or for those of you short on details, I'm listing out the progression of this issue, and my take on them, feel free to respond. I'm honestly looking forward to this horrible debate ending suddenly.<BR/><BR/>It will be posted on Rick's blog at mormonismreviewed.blogspot.com and my own blog at the-roaming-gnome.blogspot.com.<BR/><BR/>1. A person took on Rick's persona and said things contradictory to Rick's beliefs.<BR/><BR/>2. It was said that Ed came to help Rick by rebuking the same person. Further, it was stated that Ed was the Good Samaritan as in the Parable of the Good Samaritan in doing this deed.<BR/><BR/>3. In Rick challenging the statement, Ed posted a breakdown of the parable and his perception of how he fit it.<BR/><BR/>Now, here's my take on the whole fiasco.<BR/><BR/>1. I think it was improper for the person to do what he/she did. This issue has been resolved with that person.<BR/><BR/>2. I think that a lot of things were blown out of proportion. It was said that Rick and his wife were ungrateful for Ed to show his generosity. On that I think that Ed should have kept quiet and been content for the righteous (and I use "righteous" loosely) thing that he had done. I think it was arrogant of him to continue on the topic. I say this because if he really was being righteous for the Kingdom, God knows what he did and saw it, and would have received praise for it later (much more satisfying than receiving praise from any man). About Rick's abusive nature (as Ed's perception puts it), I don't believe Rick to be abusive. There is a difference between blunt and abusive, problem is the world can't tell the difference. I myself find it to be a bad thing to be called "nice". It implies that I'm lying to your face, and I don't do that. You will not find me to be "nice", but kind. My own mother can attest to me not being nice.<BR/><BR/>I have not even begun to touch all the things said on this topic across the two blogs. 1. It would be impossible. Some of the posts have been deleted, some e-mails have been thrown around, and I can't read people's minds. 2. I'm not going to. It wouldn't be fruitful, and would take up too much time.<BR/><BR/>Now, here's my challenge to the both Rick and Ed. I have an idea of what Rick would say, but for validity's sake, it would be better to post it outright. Answer these questions for me and everybody else out there:<BR/><BR/><B>What purpose is served in this discussion?</B><BR/><BR/><B>What good has this done anybody?</B><BR/><BR/><B>How much closer to God are you through this discussion?</B><BR/><BR/>Also, please answer it on all blogs!Spidey4Christhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203508904372678294noreply@blogger.com