Mormon Hater Show
Here are 3 of his topics.
1.
Does the Savior Want You to Hate?
"Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
Never once did he tell his followers to hate or try to destroy the belief system of others. If you think he did, you need to spend more time reading the New Testament.
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Step 3: You Must Want to Change
Only by wanting to change can you remove the hate from your heart. Hate doesn't just leave by itself, it's like cancer, once it gets attached to the body it doesn't leave without surgery. You must make a conscience decision, you must say to yourself, "I will no longer hate any religion, I will let others believe as they wish and will not hate them for their beliefs." It is time for you to decide not to hate anymore.
Remember, Hitler claimed he didn't hate Jews, but only loved Germans.
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You Must Admit You Hate
Looks like we still need to work on step one for some people. I will use a recent comment I received as an example:
"A person can think Mormonism is laughably absurd without actually hating Mormons. I like Mormons fine. At least most of them. Heck, my whole family has the disease. But, like any other sickness, hating a person for being ill doesn't help."
This is a very common game played by Mormon Haters, they don't want to consider themselves someone who hates, so they try to convince themselves that they do not hate Mormons. Let me explain how silly this argument is: They wish the LDS church harm and call it things like "a sickness" "a disease" "a cult" in an attempt to harm it. They scoff and laugh at LDS doctrine, calling it "ridiculous", "laughable", "absurd" and "foolish". They stand out in front of LDS gatherings holding up outrageous signs and saying anything hateful they can think of to try to get a rise out of Mormons walking past. But, they claim, they do not hate Mormons.
What if someone told you, "I don't really hate black people, I just don't like Hip Hop or Rap, I don't like their clothes, I try to avoid black neighborhoods, I don't really trust them, I don't like their culture, I would never go to Africa and I have never had a black friend. But I don't hate black people." What would you think?
Perhaps I am wrong, perhaps one can call a religion all sorts of names and wish it harm without actually hating it. Only God really knows.
Now I posted these because this guy might just pull his blog down because he cannot handle the truth. Here is why I say that. He makes the Claim that anyone that does not believe or teach Mormonism is true, hates Mormonism. He says, Anyone that calls mormonism a Cult, hates mormonism. I left replys under all three topics, One reply only answed part of my question, one ignored my question and the 3rd reply completly ignored my question, then He shut down the reply section to all replys.
Under number 3, You Must Admit Hate, here was my rather long reply, and his no real reply to me.
My post was not full of hate and spite, I asked you how you handle LDS hating Christians because, you come across sounding like if anyone tells a mormon they are wrong about what they believe, then that equels hate.
Here are some things posted by you on your blog. This is a very common game played by Mormon Haters, they don't want to consider themselves someone who hates, so they try to convince themselves that they do not hate Mormons. Let me explain how silly this argument is: They wish the LDS church harm and call it things like "a sickness" "a disease" "a cult" in an attempt to harm it. They scoff and laugh at LDS doctrine, calling it "ridiculous", "laughable", "absurd" and "foolish". They stand out in front of LDS gatherings holding up outrageous signs and saying anything hateful they can think of to try to get a rise out of Mormons walking past. But, they claim, they do not hate Mormons.
I do not stand out in front of temples, many that do, do not act like you say, yes some do. I also know that many who do, do it in a respectful way and it is the LDS that attack them. I went to SLC for two weeks, I was almost removed from the group getting a tour for simply asking a question. It was about JS shooting 3 people in jail.
THE LDS had a monster of a guy, about the size of a pro wrestler, all dressed in his FBI looking suit tell me I will be removed for asking questions like that.
Then you say stuff like, if we call you a cult, we hate you, if we do not agree with your doctrine we hate you, etc.
This poses a real problem for you, here is why. Do you tell JW's, Muslims, athiests etc, they are wrong. you will say, No we dont, you might even quote A of F 11 as you did already? If you say that is correct, then why do LDS go door to door telling people that your church is the church they must join?
LDS might not come out and say, your wrong, but by default you do, if you teach I must join your church for all the truth, and I teach anything false, then you really do not follow A of F 11 100 percent, and by telling me I have any false teaching says your a hater.
Have you read the BoM where it teaches their are ONLY 2 CHURCHS, One is of the Devil, is this not hate according to your logic?
If I call you a cult, and that equels me hating you, then your Teaching telling me I am of the Church of the Devil means you must hate me? And if I am of the devil, then that means my Doctrine is wrong, is that not the same as we supposdly do to you?
Have you ever read these quotes by YOUR PROPHETS, PRESIDENTS, and TEACHERS?
1 nephi 14:10 "Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the lamb of god, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the lamb of god belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.
Someone please tell me how that is not Hateful or full of Spite. I quote B Young: with a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called christian world (journal of discourses 8:199).
I quote 3rd president John Taylor (Brigham Young quotes Mr Taylor) Brother Taylor has just said that the religions of the day were hatched in hell, the eggs were laid in hell, hatched on its borders, and kicked onto the earth" (j.o.d 6:176).
I quote Heber C. Kimball Christians-those poor, miserable priests brother Brigham was speaking about-some of them are the biggest whoremasters there are on the earth" (j.o.d 5:89).
So calling us Whore Masters, saying our Doctrine is from Hell, that were miserable priests, were an abomination, this is not hateful?
What about Bruce Mc, I own the oringial Mormon Doctrine from 1958, His teaching on the Catholic Church is full of Hate, anger and spite, Have you ever read it. Wow and your only showing one side of the story, us claiming your wrong. How about Jesus, He told people they were wrong, they were broods of Vipers and white washed tombs, is that not hateful?
What about Paul, saying if you teach any other Gospel you will go to hell, Not hateful according to you? what about Paul calling Down Blindness upon a false prophet? Or Jude, calling people wandering stars never knowing the truth. If they can say this in truth and love and it is not hateful, then neither are we for sharing the truth.
Were you aware of this?
This was a Q and A on a blog I was at.
The July 22, 2000 edition of the Church News quoted Bishop Glenn L. Pace from his April 1989 General Conference address discussing "former members who have become disenchanted with the Church but who are obsessed with making vicious and vile attacks upon it."
They wanted to know this.
Please explain what would be defined as a "vicious and vile attack" upon the Church. What are the elements or components that make up such an attack?
I answered this question by saying.
i believe a vicious and vile attack would include slander and lies. yet i also believe this is what the mormon church is doing, all the while claiming people like ed decker, the tanners, and even me are doing. i believe the mormon church is lying to the average mormon person.
i own a lot of mormon books, most rare or old. i can see for myself the changes the church denies making. i own the 1958 1st edition mormon doctrine, the history of the church 7 volumes, the 1888 edition pearl of great price, plus the newer ones to verify all the changes. what i call the "SANITIZED VERSION'S."
the mormon church says people like me or ed decker lie. well if that is the case and the mormon church teaches the prophet can not lead the church astray, then why is it the average mormon person is afraid to view the evidence for him or herself? i would love to show the changes in the mormon doctrine. if the mormon person does not want to sit and view the evidence, then the mormon person cannot claim i--or any one else--is lying; otherwise that would be slander without proof on their part.
i have yet to see the mormon church come forward and confront the people with truth. they say we lie yet they won't show us the proof in a public fashion. Why? i believe they cannot do it, that's why.
So it seems their is much hate coming from the LDS if we use your logic. Rick b
September 17, 2008 7:39 AM
Now here was his lame no real answers to me reply.
Weston Krogstadt said...
Well Rick, I read your very long comment, and I am now convinced more than ever that you are not only a Mormon Hater but have many issues to deal with beyond my control. This is not a blog to deal with Mormon Doctrine. There are thousands of those, I would visit one of those to preach your hate, then visit a good psychiatrist.
September 17, 2008 9:44 AM
He can say all he wants, I am not here to deal with mormon doctrine, but that is simply a lame excuse, he can say we hate him, yet when confronted with evidence that his church has hate, he ignores it. To add even more evidence of this, After he replied to me, he set his blog up so no one can reply to his topics, and he posted a new topic and is not allowing replys. If this is not a bias and one sided view then I do not know what is.
If I were a Honest Mormon reading this I would be very embarrased that they claim to teach "Love" and yet they really do not. Or I will have some mormon say, he does not speak for all of us, yet LDS gladly rag on non-LDS for speaking against what they believe, yet they do not get on LDS for acting as this LDS does. You allow this kind of stuff and then wonder why people question you guys, here is a mormon who refuses to deal with the truth, yet do the LDS really care? I doubt it. Rick b
