More on Ralphs reply.

Ralph's reply said

Old Testament Themes
The Book of Mormon was written to show us “what great things the Lord has done for [our] fathers; and that [we] may know the covenants of the Lord” (Book of Mormon title page, paragraph 2). The “fathers” mentioned here refer to Adam, Enoch, Noah, Melchizedek, Abraham, Joseph, Lehi, Nephi, Jacob, King Benjamin, King Mosiah, Alma, and many others. They were of the house of Israel and were under the same covenants with God as members of the Church are today. The family of Jacob, whether in Old Testament or Book of Mormon lands, were the preachers of righteousness who have laid before us in the scriptures the doctrine of Christ, even faith, repentance, baptism, and the gift of the Holy Ghost. Adam, Moses, Isaiah, Nephi, Mormon, Moroni, and many others have written in great detail and clarity of the eternal gospel and its beginning from the foundation of the earth. They wrote and testified of the Creation, the Fall, Lucifer, the redemption of all mankind through the Holy Messiah, salvation by grace, and the resurrection of the dead.

I really need to ask, why is it LDS teach the BoM people are our fathers, and that they taught us things needed to make our faith stronger, Yet Jesus and the Disaples taught from the BoM, yet they never once quote from the BoM prophets or people. LDS try and say the reason is simple, they were in a different country or far away, but that is really bogus for a few reason.

1. The BoM quotes from the Bible, even the OT prophets and in great Depth, yet Jesus never quotes from the BoM.

2. the Bible was written by 40 authors over 1000's of years most never knew each other and lived 1000,s of miles apart, Example, Moses did not live in the same place or time frame as Noah, then since the entire world was destoryed by a flood, we will never know where noah lived compared to moses. yet Jesus quoted from many Books and time periods of the Bible.

According to the BoM, LDS people were alive and mingled with people of the Bible at the time of the tower of Babel, yet Jesus only quotes the Bible, never the BoM.

More from Ralph,

Another major emphasis of the Old Testament is the scattering and gathering of the house of Israel. Here again the Book of Mormon offers invaluable perspectives. One of the sons of Jacob (Israel) was Joseph, who was sold into Egypt. Joseph became a leader in the court of Pharaoh (see Gen. 37–41). To Joseph were born two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim (Gen. 41:50–52). The descendants of these two sons are “the fruitful bough” of the house of Israel “whose branches run over the wall” (Gen. 49:22), meaning they were scattered across the earth. As the Book of Mormon account opens, we are introduced to Lehi, “a descendant of Manasseh, who was the son of Joseph who was sold into Egypt” (Alma 10:3).

If what Ralph posted was true, then as I said Above, why does the Bible not teach this and if Jesus quotes back to Jacob, why not mention People from the BoM? Simple, the BoM is inspired of Satan.

Ralph said

The story of Lehi and his family in the Book of Mormon is a record of a scattered remnant of the house of Israel. Yet the Book of Mormon introduces all of scattered Israel to the Restoration and latter-day prophets who preach the same gospel of Christ taught by ancient prophets.

Paul teaches in Gal that Any one who teaches a different Gospel will go to Hell. Lately to my surprise, LDS are being honest and admitting they teach a different Gospel. They teach theirs is correct and ours is false but at least they admit it is different. If the want to say we preach the same Gospel then go back to my Bruce Challange and Answer this Question,

Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that Elohim (God the Father in Mormonism) was once a mortal man and that he was not always God?
Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that God has a body of flesh and bones?

Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that God is married in heaven?

Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that men can become Gods?

Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that temple participation is necessary to become exalted?

Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach Jesus and Lucifer are brothers?

Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach the blood of Christ does not cleanse certain sins?

Where in the Book of Mormon does it say there is more than one God?

Where in the Book of Mormon does it say males must hold either the Aaronic or Melchizedek Priesthood?

Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that there are "three degrees of glory"?

Please do not ignore this or make excuses as to why you cannot answer it, Just answer it. If these 10 things are not found in the Bible or BoM, how can the BoM be true or teach us things that are needed?

Ralph said

A third significant subject presented in the Old Testament is the role of prophets. Prophets are called by God in all ages. Their duty is to teach the everlasting gospel, to cry repentance. They invite all to come to Christ and be saved in the kingdom of God. Whether from the watchtowers of the Old Testament (see Isa. 52:8; Jer. 6:17; Ezek. 3:17), those of the Book of Mormon (see Mosiah 2:8; Hel. 7:10–14), or today’s pulpits alive with latter-day testimony, prophets speak and the message of salvation is given. The Book of Mormon helps us understand how Old Testament prophets held the keys and authority of God and conducted their labors in preparing families for exaltation through the great plan of God (see JST, Gen. 14:25–40, Bible appendix; Alma 13:1–21). Righteous priesthood holders administer the gospel of Jesus Christ and establish the Church in every dispensation.

If this is true, then again I ask, why does Jesus not quote from the BoM, Why is the BoM quoting whole chapters from the Bible, remove that since it is already in the Bible and we really dont have much left to the BoM.

The quote said, Prophets teach the way of salvation. One question that keeps coming up among believers is, Name one LDS prophet in the Last 200 years that gave an in depth Prophecy, they have not and they will not. Because they teach lies. Then they speak about how we must hold priesthood Authority, so here is my reply to that.

priesthood topic

I will post more as time permits. But to all the LDS who think, great, Ricks not posting much, I am very Active on the Mormon Coffee blog, So yes I am still defending the truth and fighting the lies of your false god and prophet, I will not stop fighting the lies of your father till I am called home with Jesus my Lord and Saviour. Rick b

mormon coffee